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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://grgrub.com/2009/12/09/founders-lacks-right-recipe-for-food/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not go to a bowling alley next and review their food? I mean, I understand it&#039;s a bowling alley...but can&#039;t they have good food too? The point is, you go to Founders for one thing...the beer. And in my opinion it&#039;s some of the best beer around.  Having any food available is just a bonus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not go to a bowling alley next and review their food? I mean, I understand it&#8217;s a bowling alley&#8230;but can&#8217;t they have good food too? The point is, you go to Founders for one thing&#8230;the beer. And in my opinion it&#8217;s some of the best beer around.  Having any food available is just a bonus.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://grgrub.com/2009/12/09/founders-lacks-right-recipe-for-food/#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your gripe is that your sub was good, but messy?  You ordered a MEATBALL SUB!

&quot;excuse me, waiter, this beer I ordered appears to be bitter and taste like hops.  Expect a scathing review.&quot;

And it&#039;s because of people like your friend that most places are afraid to make any of their dishes spicy.   A little heat and they whine and moan about it, so management makes everything bland.

Considering that Founders is not a restaurant, I think their sandwiches and appetizers are pretty creative and tasty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your gripe is that your sub was good, but messy?  You ordered a MEATBALL SUB!</p>
<p>&#8220;excuse me, waiter, this beer I ordered appears to be bitter and taste like hops.  Expect a scathing review.&#8221;</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s because of people like your friend that most places are afraid to make any of their dishes spicy.   A little heat and they whine and moan about it, so management makes everything bland.</p>
<p>Considering that Founders is not a restaurant, I think their sandwiches and appetizers are pretty creative and tasty.</p>
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		<title>By: JoelFalz</title>
		<link>http://grgrub.com/2009/12/09/founders-lacks-right-recipe-for-food/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>JoelFalz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 07:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that lack of sides (chips, fries) makes the pricing on Founder&#039;s sandwiches steep. That said, I&#039;ve been impressed with every sandwich I&#039;ve ever had there. I think it&#039;s completely unfair to compare Founders to any other restaurant in Grand Rapids in terms of service and selection...because its not a restaurant. Founders is a brewery focused on bringing phenomenal beer to the masses, and they do so better than any establishment in Michigan. If you&#039;d shown up after 6pm on any Monday evening your &quot;expectations&quot; would have been absolutely destroyed, and you&#039;d know what the place is really about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that lack of sides (chips, fries) makes the pricing on Founder&#8217;s sandwiches steep. That said, I&#8217;ve been impressed with every sandwich I&#8217;ve ever had there. I think it&#8217;s completely unfair to compare Founders to any other restaurant in Grand Rapids in terms of service and selection&#8230;because its not a restaurant. Founders is a brewery focused on bringing phenomenal beer to the masses, and they do so better than any establishment in Michigan. If you&#8217;d shown up after 6pm on any Monday evening your &#8220;expectations&#8221; would have been absolutely destroyed, and you&#8217;d know what the place is really about.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://grgrub.com/2009/12/09/founders-lacks-right-recipe-for-food/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to agree. I was disappointed standing in line at the window, realizing all I had to choose from were sandwiches. But as far as sandwiches go, it was tasty. And…the beer is fantastic, which is why I was there in the first place. With beer like that, you can overlook the lacking food menu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree. I was disappointed standing in line at the window, realizing all I had to choose from were sandwiches. But as far as sandwiches go, it was tasty. And…the beer is fantastic, which is why I was there in the first place. With beer like that, you can overlook the lacking food menu.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Maker</title>
		<link>http://grgrub.com/2009/12/09/founders-lacks-right-recipe-for-food/#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay Maker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love going to Founders, Ive consumed nearly every sandwich there, and am generally impressed with the quality. That said, I&#039;m willing but not thrilled pay the $10 a meal and I agree that chips or a side should come with. The last few subs Ive ordered have featured bread that was not fresh that day, which is OK unless you&#039;re accustomed to it being the other way. The staff is my favorite in town, and make every experience memorable. Initially 4.0, now 3.5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love going to Founders, Ive consumed nearly every sandwich there, and am generally impressed with the quality. That said, I&#8217;m willing but not thrilled pay the $10 a meal and I agree that chips or a side should come with. The last few subs Ive ordered have featured bread that was not fresh that day, which is OK unless you&#8217;re accustomed to it being the other way. The staff is my favorite in town, and make every experience memorable. Initially 4.0, now 3.5.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://grgrub.com/2009/12/09/founders-lacks-right-recipe-for-food/#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with this review, though I may have awarded it three stars instead of two.  I can&#039;t believe so many people are saying that Founders has some of the best sandwiches in town!  Founders can&#039;t begin to compete with places like Schnitz Deli and Cherry Deli.  I also agree with the people who have noted that Founders is primarily a brewery.  The author hit this point a few times in his review as well.  Even so, if a place serves food and a customer pays for it, there&#039;s no reason he or she can&#039;t expect it to be good.

Joey, I&#039;ve had Red&#039;s Rye at Founders.  It&#039;s spicier than most people would imagine it to be (even in light of the capicolla and chipotle mayo).  Also, every dining experience entails expectations and every review is biased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this review, though I may have awarded it three stars instead of two.  I can&#8217;t believe so many people are saying that Founders has some of the best sandwiches in town!  Founders can&#8217;t begin to compete with places like Schnitz Deli and Cherry Deli.  I also agree with the people who have noted that Founders is primarily a brewery.  The author hit this point a few times in his review as well.  Even so, if a place serves food and a customer pays for it, there&#8217;s no reason he or she can&#8217;t expect it to be good.</p>
<p>Joey, I&#8217;ve had Red&#8217;s Rye at Founders.  It&#8217;s spicier than most people would imagine it to be (even in light of the capicolla and chipotle mayo).  Also, every dining experience entails expectations and every review is biased.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://grgrub.com/2009/12/09/founders-lacks-right-recipe-for-food/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely disagree with this review as far as food quality goes.
In my opinion Founders has some of the best deli sandwiches in town.
That said, it&#039;s all about expectations. Having been there, I expect great beer and good, unique deli sandwiches, not burgers and fries I can get at most any bar. I agree service can be an issue. Drink service is often hit or miss, based on how busy they are and who your server happens to be.

Joey, I wouldn&#039;t read any review and expect it to be unbiased. That kind of defeats the purpose of writing a review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely disagree with this review as far as food quality goes.<br />
In my opinion Founders has some of the best deli sandwiches in town.<br />
That said, it&#8217;s all about expectations. Having been there, I expect great beer and good, unique deli sandwiches, not burgers and fries I can get at most any bar. I agree service can be an issue. Drink service is often hit or miss, based on how busy they are and who your server happens to be.</p>
<p>Joey, I wouldn&#8217;t read any review and expect it to be unbiased. That kind of defeats the purpose of writing a review.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
		<link>http://grgrub.com/2009/12/09/founders-lacks-right-recipe-for-food/#comment-241</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Founders has great grub, and certainly doesn&#039;t advertise itself as anything but a deli, offering a menu comprised of unique sandwiches and a few appetizers. If you came in expecting burgers and fries, then you obviously didn&#039;t intend on being impressed or come with any pretext about the place at all. And you thought the Red&#039;s Rye Sandwich was too spicy? What did you expect, when the ingredients include &#039;capicolla&#039; (a spicy ham) and &#039;chipotle mayo&#039;? Perhaps next time you review an establishment, you should leave your &#039;expectations&#039; at the door and come in with an open mind, especially if your intention is to deliver an unbiased review. Either that or stick to burger and pizza joints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Founders has great grub, and certainly doesn&#8217;t advertise itself as anything but a deli, offering a menu comprised of unique sandwiches and a few appetizers. If you came in expecting burgers and fries, then you obviously didn&#8217;t intend on being impressed or come with any pretext about the place at all. And you thought the Red&#8217;s Rye Sandwich was too spicy? What did you expect, when the ingredients include &#8216;capicolla&#8217; (a spicy ham) and &#8216;chipotle mayo&#8217;? Perhaps next time you review an establishment, you should leave your &#8216;expectations&#8217; at the door and come in with an open mind, especially if your intention is to deliver an unbiased review. Either that or stick to burger and pizza joints.</p>
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		<title>By: Christie</title>
		<link>http://grgrub.com/2009/12/09/founders-lacks-right-recipe-for-food/#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator>Christie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with the review. It would almost be more appropriate if they didn&#039;t serve food at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with the review. It would almost be more appropriate if they didn&#8217;t serve food at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron H.</title>
		<link>http://grgrub.com/2009/12/09/founders-lacks-right-recipe-for-food/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Founder&#039;s was smoke-free at their new location. Am I wrong?  There was no smoke when I was last there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Founder&#8217;s was smoke-free at their new location. Am I wrong?  There was no smoke when I was last there&#8230;</p>
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